Free ACAD

Page 27 of the Nov/Dec issue of AUGIWorld Magazine has this advertisement.

What on earth is A/CAD? What is A/CAD LT? And what is A/CAD LT Express. And why is it free? There are (1) things I know, (2) things I don’t know, (3) things I can tell you; and (4) things I can’t tell you, thanks to some NDA which I regretfully signed.

(1) I know the answers to all the questions above, quite simply because I have A/CAD LT Express installed on my computer.

(2) I don’t know how this advertisement found a place in AUGIWorld, the official publication of Autodesk User Group International.

(3) I can tell you that IMSI/Design, the makers of the TurboCAD range of products are upto something. And wary of the fact that they are taking on Autodesk, they appear to be doing it carefully. For example, they applied and got a trademark for “ACAD” this year. Incidently, Autodesk had two trademarks for “ACAD” which they abandonned in 1987 and 1992. So I guess Autodesk may not drag IMSI to court saying that they own the “ACAD” name, like how they think they own “DWG”.

(4) I can’t tell you things that I can’t tell you.

According to the advertisement, A/CAD will be displayed in Las Vegas at the Venetian Hotel between December 2nd and 4th. I hear that another CAD vendor is having it’s annual user conference in the same city at the same hotel at the same time. Gee… I wonder who that may be.

  • Anonymous

    This was the highlight of my blog readings this morning. Thanks.

  • Anonymous

    This was the highlight of my blog readings this morning. Thanks.

    • anonymous(2)

      I tried IMSI’s DoubleCADXT and TurboCAD Pro – both programs would not load on my computer with Win 7 OS.  Kept getting 1606 compatibility error.  They don’t work!

  • Deelip Menezes

    The pleasure is mine. Really.

  • Deelip Menezes

    The pleasure is mine. Really.

  • ralphg

    “According to the advertisement, A/CAD will be displayed in Las Vegas at the Venetian Hotel…”

    The ad says nothing about the Ventetian Hotel, the location of AU.

    If this is a new CAD product designed to compete against one of Autodesk’s, then they would be stationed at a different hotel.

  • ralphg

    “According to the advertisement, A/CAD will be displayed in Las Vegas at the Venetian Hotel…”The ad says nothing about the Ventetian Hotel, the location of AU.If this is a new CAD product designed to compete against one of Autodesk’s, then they would be stationed at a different hotel.

  • Anonymous

    That is not free, look at FreeCAD:

    http://sourceforge.net/projects/free-cad/

  • Anonymous

    That is not free, look at FreeCAD:http://sourceforge.net/projects/free-cad/

  • Anonymous

    Let’s see what effect this will have on Autodesk’s pricing. Probably nothing.

    BTW. IMSI is one of the founding members of the OpenDWG Alliance and member of IntelliCAD Technology Consortium.

    Anyother IntelliCAD clone?

  • Anonymous

    Let’s see what effect this will have on Autodesk’s pricing. Probably nothing.BTW. IMSI is one of the founding members of the OpenDWG Alliance and member of IntelliCAD Technology Consortium.Anyother IntelliCAD clone?

  • Deelip Menezes

    Ralph, if you follow the link in the ad you will see that IMSI will be very much present during AU at the Venetian Hotel.

  • Deelip Menezes

    Ralph, if you follow the link in the ad you will see that IMSI will be very much present during AU at the Venetian Hotel.

  • Deelip Menezes

    Anonymous: “That is not free, look at FreeCAD:”

    A/CAD LT Express is free. FreeCAD is free and open source.

  • Deelip Menezes

    Anonymous: “That is not free, look at FreeCAD:”A/CAD LT Express is free. FreeCAD is free and open source.

  • Owen Wengerd

    Deelip, just for the record, IMSI’s trademark application for “ACAD” was refused due to likelihood of confusion with another registered “ACAD” mark for CAD software. Hence, I presume, “A/CAD(tm)” in their ad.

  • Owen Wengerd

    Deelip, just for the record, IMSI’s trademark application for “ACAD” was refused due to likelihood of confusion with another registered “ACAD” mark for CAD software. Hence, I presume, “A/CAD(tm)” in their ad.

  • ralphg

    IMSI is no longer a member of the ITC.

  • ralphg

    IMSI is no longer a member of the ITC.

  • Deelip Menezes

    Owen, I dont see any "/" at http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=aisn59.3.2

    The Word Mark clearsy says "ACAD" as did both the abandonned trademarks of Autodesk.

  • Deelip Menezes

    Owen, I dont see any "/" at http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=aisn59.3.2The Word Mark clearsy says "ACAD" as did both the abandonned trademarks of Autodesk.

  • Anonymous

    Hi Deelip…

    Interesting, there will be many 2D CAD like AutoCAD. BTW, have you try this software : http://www.a9tech.com/ and http://www.progecad.com. I want to know the comparison compare to ZWCAD and also Bricsys.

    Thank You

  • Anonymous

    Hi Deelip…Interesting, there will be many 2D CAD like AutoCAD. BTW, have you try this software : http://www.a9tech.com/ and http://www.progecad.com. I want to know the comparison compare to ZWCAD and also Bricsys.Thank You

  • Deelip Menezes

    Anonymous,

    progeCAD is the old IntelliCAD 6.x techology. I believe A9CAD is also the same.

    Bricscad is a complete rewrite, quite similar to what the new IntelliCAD 7 will be. ZWCAD is a bit of a mixup. They appear to be using the old IntelliCAD 6.x technology, but have managed to add some components of the new IntelliCAD as well.

    Disclaimer: I do not have access to the source code of any the above products and am oferring an opinion by looking at the DLLs shipped by the respective products.

  • Deelip Menezes

    Anonymous,progeCAD is the old IntelliCAD 6.x techology. I believe A9CAD is also the same.Bricscad is a complete rewrite, quite similar to what the new IntelliCAD 7 will be. ZWCAD is a bit of a mixup. They appear to be using the old IntelliCAD 6.x technology, but have managed to add some components of the new IntelliCAD as well.Disclaimer: I do not have access to the source code of any the above products and am oferring an opinion by looking at the DLLs shipped by the respective products.

  • Anonymous

    The time has come for an updated full in depth comparison table chart between different intellicad incarnations.
    The market is extremely confused in this moment.
    not an easy task, but somebody have to do.

  • Anonymous

    The time has come for an updated full in depth comparison table chart between different intellicad incarnations.The market is extremely confused in this moment.not an easy task, but somebody have to do.

  • Kholish

    Hi deelip, yes. I want to know the comparison. I am confuse which is the best between zwcad vs bricscad vs progecad. Wish you can give us more info. Thanks

  • Kholish

    Hi deelip, yes. I want to know the comparison. I am confuse which is the best between zwcad vs bricscad vs progecad. Wish you can give us more info. Thanks

  • Deelip Menezes

    Kholish,

    I am not expert in these AutoCAD clones and neither have I stress tested them thoroughly to even make an attempt at comparing them. But here is a rule of thumb that I would use: Any clone that is based on the old IntelliCAD 6.x platform is going to have performance issues. These are not my words. These are the words of the ITC development team itself, that I heard when I was at the IntelliCAD World Meeting in Greece last month.

    A few ITC members got fed up waiting for the ITC to deliver on the new IntelliCAD 7 platform and they have gone ahead and developed their own AutoCAD clones. One of them is Bricsys, with their Bricscad. Rumour had it that ZWCAD was going off on a tangent as well. But when I asked them in Greece, they stood by the ITC.

    I cannot comment on IMSI and A/CAD yet. Let’s just say that I like what I see.

  • Deelip Menezes

    Kholish,I am not expert in these AutoCAD clones and neither have I stress tested them thoroughly to even make an attempt at comparing them. But here is a rule of thumb that I would use: Any clone that is based on the old IntelliCAD 6.x platform is going to have performance issues. These are not my words. These are the words of the ITC development team itself, that I heard when I was at the IntelliCAD World Meeting in Greece last month.A few ITC members got fed up waiting for the ITC to deliver on the new IntelliCAD 7 platform and they have gone ahead and developed their own AutoCAD clones. One of them is Bricsys, with their Bricscad. Rumour had it that ZWCAD was going off on a tangent as well. But when I asked them in Greece, they stood by the ITC.I cannot comment on IMSI and A/CAD yet. Let’s just say that I like what I see.

  • Royal

    Correct, we are not a member of the ITC… and what we’ve created is not just another IntelliCAD clone. We were a member in the past and have been rooting for IntelliCAD for many years, though. As Deelip suggested, we felt that we just couldn’t wait any longer. Ultimately, we are fortunate enough to have our own strong CAD code to act as a base… and are very happy with the dev path we took in terms of reliability, performance, and extended feature set.

  • Royal

    Correct, we are not a member of the ITC… and what we’ve created is not just another IntelliCAD clone. We were a member in the past and have been rooting for IntelliCAD for many years, though. As Deelip suggested, we felt that we just couldn’t wait any longer. Ultimately, we are fortunate enough to have our own strong CAD code to act as a base… and are very happy with the dev path we took in terms of reliability, performance, and extended feature set.

  • kholish

    Hi Deelip…

    Thanks for your info.
    So looks like Bricscad is the best AutoCAD clone.

    Hi Royal…

    What is the software that your talking about. Do you mean Bricscad or ZWCAD ?

    Sorry, not clear….

  • kholish

    Hi Deelip…Thanks for your info.So looks like Bricscad is the best AutoCAD clone.Hi Royal…What is the software that your talking about. Do you mean Bricscad or ZWCAD ?Sorry, not clear….

  • Deelip Menezes

    I believe Royal is from IMSI

  • Deelip Menezes

    I believe Royal is from IMSI

  • kholish

    again…
    Thanks Deelip 😉

  • kholish

    again…Thanks Deelip 😉

  • Royal

    Yes, Royal from IMSI/Design.

    Kholish, we are introducing a new AutoCAD LT work-alike called A/CAD LT Express on Dec 3rd. We are using our code, not an ITC variant. And unlike the ITC, we are not targeting AutoCAD, rather, we believe we’re a compelling alternative to AutoCAD LT… especially since our price is free. More on Dec 3rd.

  • Royal

    Yes, Royal from IMSI/Design.Kholish, we are introducing a new AutoCAD LT work-alike called A/CAD LT Express on Dec 3rd. We are using our code, not an ITC variant. And unlike the ITC, we are not targeting AutoCAD, rather, we believe we’re a compelling alternative to AutoCAD LT… especially since our price is free. More on Dec 3rd.

  • Owen Wengerd

    Deelip, the ™ symbol in the ad copy indicates that the mark is not registered. “ACAD” is a registered trademark, but “A/CAD” is not. Presumably, that is why IMSI used “A/CAD”. I’m just guessing, but if I’m right, I would expect the name to change once the owners of “ACAD” get wind of it.

  • Owen Wengerd

    Deelip, the ™ symbol in the ad copy indicates that the mark is not registered. “ACAD” is a registered trademark, but “A/CAD” is not. Presumably, that is why IMSI used “A/CAD”. I’m just guessing, but if I’m right, I would expect the name to change once the owners of “ACAD” get wind of it.

  • Deelip Menezes

    I’m no legal expert. You may have a point.

    Either way, pretty soon I think you may be getting a lot of fodder for cadcourt.com to chew on.

  • Deelip Menezes

    I’m no legal expert. You may have a point.Either way, pretty soon I think you may be getting a lot of fodder for cadcourt.com to chew on.

  • Anonymous

    It is like those samples they give at the mall…

  • Anonymous

    It is like those samples they give at the mall…

  • Nick

    I wonder what happened to the Dec. 4 release date? That and the site seems to have been scrubbed of all possible A/CAD references.

  • Nick

    I wonder what happened to the Dec. 4 release date? That and the site seems to have been scrubbed of all possible A/CAD references.

  • Deelip Menezes

    There is a story to that, which I guess, will become public knowledge soon.

  • Deelip Menezes

    There is a story to that, which I guess, will become public knowledge soon.

  • Nick

    Threat of a lawsuit perhaps…?

  • Nick

    Threat of a lawsuit perhaps…?

  • Nick

    This now known as DoubleCAD. We will see how long that name lasts…

  • Nick

    This now known as DoubleCAD. We will see how long that name lasts…

  • Anonymous

    Now its *really* time for a comparison table between intellicad products, no need to compare to autocad, or other dxf products like qcad or linuxcad or varicad. just “intellicad twines or clones or whatever they liked to be called”.

    your group @intellicad.net does not seem to me a good idea after a second thought. intellicad vendors just have too much biased opinions, and progecad is filling you with unnecesary spam.

    all this intellicad stuff is just confusing the market TOO much.

    —–
    btw: http://intellicad.net is just pointing to godaddy girls. they are too much involved in mixing sex with web domains. is easy to fix this to point the www public site.

  • Anonymous

    Now its *really* time for a comparison table between intellicad products, no need to compare to autocad, or other dxf products like qcad or linuxcad or varicad. just “intellicad twines or clones or whatever they liked to be called”.your group @intellicad.net does not seem to me a good idea after a second thought. intellicad vendors just have too much biased opinions, and progecad is filling you with unnecesary spam.all this intellicad stuff is just confusing the market TOO much.—–btw: http://intellicad.net is just pointing to godaddy girls. they are too much involved in mixing sex with web domains. is easy to fix this to point the www public site.

  • Cuvar Grad

    bricscad vs progecad vs zwcad-my opinion zwcad…I think that zwcad is the best autocad clone. Reason>almost all options that has autocad, suppport for multileaders(which progecad doesn’t have), file comparasion…Also, I think that there is enough place for improvements in zwcad…

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