Inventor Fusion Is Finally Out, But…

…it is not what they say it is. At least, not yet. All that marketing talk about “uniting direct and parametric workflows” is just that – talk. Inventor Fusion Technology Preview 1 is just a preview of the direct modeling workflow and has nothing related to the history side of things. And this is precisely how the brains at Autodesk Marketing appear to have planned it. According to the Autodesk press release, the “technology preview is the first step in delivering the full vision of Inventor Fusion“. So instead of releasing their “full vision”, Autodesk intends to dish it out in installments, thereby dragging this issue for as long as they possibly can. I am not sure whether this approach is designed get people like me to write about Fusion as much as possible, although it certainly looks that way. Frankly, after all that noise, I don’t think so the world is interested in seeing part of their vision, especially the part which just about every other CAD vendor has already implemented.

Don’t get me wrong. I have been playing around with Fusion for the past three weeks now and its direct modeling capabilities are great. But truth be told, Direct Modeling has ceased to amaze me, especially after seeing what SpaceClaim, Synchronous Technolgy and the other CAD systems that came before them can do. What will amaze me is the “fusion” part. The part where Inventor Fusion will let me open a history based model, let me thrash it around and then let me save it back to a history based model. This will be part of Technology Preview 2, which is due to be released late summer.
Kevin Schneider, Product Manager, Manufacturing Emerging Products and Technologies at Autodesk, could not be more explicit when he told me exactly what Fusion will eventually be able to do:
“[Technology Preview 2] will allow history free edits made in Fusion on Inventor native data to be read back into Inventor and converted into features. And this is not tweak features at the end of the tree. The changes will be to the source features. This allow users to make traditional parametric edits to their Inventor data using Inventor or use Fusion to make history free edits to the same data and then have those edits be converted automatically as parametric feature edits if they need them. This is truly giving customers the best of booth.”
Usually companies spend years on a new technology using code names and shrouded in secrecy. Then when they are ready they go ahead and make a big splash. Someone at Autodesk decided to do exactly the opposite.
This is more like a strip tease and I am pissed because I am not yet feeling horny. Wake me up when she’s about to take it all off.
  • Anonymous

    Hi Deelip,I agree with your comments. I tested the current version and like you said it is just the direct editing side of things. The thing that gets me is why does it need to be two different applications or environments (""[Technology Preview 2] will allow history free edits made in Fusion on Inventor native data to be read back into Inventor and converted into features."). IRONCAD does this in the same program with the same tools for the user. I really need to see the end result before I can fully comment, but IRONCAD supports what they seems to claim. For example: IRONCAD can make four types of "Direct Edits" – 1. Direct modification of the faces made up of mulitple features resulting in a single feature made up from the affected features (non-affected features are not modified and sketches/parameters/etc remain intact). 2. Direct Modification of a Face that only applies to the Feature that can result in a maintained feature (I think this what Fusion is sort of stating – basically the modification will actually modify the feature and will not convert into a brep modification). 3. Modification on faces to Brep data (Imported data modifications that have no features and the modifications result in no new features). 4. Modifications that are a Feature in the history order. This capability has been around for sometime now but I guess it is more of a marketing push with SolidEdge and Inventor. Anyway, I'll comment more when I see the preview 2.Cary

  • Anonymous

    Hi Deelip,

    I agree with your comments. I tested the current version and like you said it is just the direct editing side of things.

    The thing that gets me is why does it need to be two different applications or environments (""[Technology Preview 2] will allow history free edits made in Fusion on Inventor native data to be read back into Inventor and converted into features."). IRONCAD does this in the same program with the same tools for the user. I really need to see the end result before I can fully comment, but IRONCAD supports what they seems to claim. For example: IRONCAD can make four types of "Direct Edits" – 1. Direct modification of the faces made up of mulitple features resulting in a single feature made up from the affected features (non-affected features are not modified and sketches/parameters/etc remain intact). 2. Direct Modification of a Face that only applies to the Feature that can result in a maintained feature (I think this what Fusion is sort of stating – basically the modification will actually modify the feature and will not convert into a brep modification). 3. Modification on faces to Brep data (Imported data modifications that have no features and the modifications result in no new features). 4. Modifications that are a Feature in the history order.

    This capability has been around for sometime now but I guess it is more of a marketing push with SolidEdge and Inventor. Anyway, I'll comment more when I see the preview 2.

    Cary

  • Deelip Menezes

    Cary,The two environments are for now only. Later the Fusion and old style Inventor will share the same window. Or rather Inventor will be fused into the Fusion interface.

  • Deelip Menezes

    Cary,

    The two environments are for now only. Later the Fusion and old style Inventor will share the same window. Or rather Inventor will be fused into the Fusion interface.

  • Scott Sheppard

    Please remmeber that Inventr Fusion is just a Labs technology preview. Inventor Fusion Technology Preview showcases several new technologies that offer potential solutions to customer challenges. As is our custom for Labs, we want customers to be delighted with any capabilities before those capabilities become part of any existing commercial product line. So, Autodesk may incorporate all, some or none of the capabilities found in the Inventor Fusion Technology Preview into future versions of Autodesk Inventor software. By releasing it now, we can get feedback on the diect modeling capabilities in advance of Technology Preview 2.

  • Scott Sheppard

    Please remmeber that Inventr Fusion is just a Labs technology preview. Inventor Fusion Technology Preview showcases several new technologies that offer potential solutions to customer challenges. As is our custom for Labs, we want customers to be delighted with any capabilities before those capabilities become part of any existing commercial product line. So, Autodesk may incorporate all, some or none of the capabilities found in the Inventor Fusion Technology Preview into future versions of Autodesk Inventor software. By releasing it now, we can get feedback on the diect modeling capabilities in advance of Technology Preview 2.

  • soliddna

    Hi DeelipBase on the few comments and the small overview i made of the prodcut, it will take Technology preview 3 or 4… to get the whole of this project.My personal take on this is Autodesk is in a process to unified (fusion) all their products on a common core. Is about time, remember when they had many versions of DWG, mechanical desktop, inventor etc….Major key message from siemens was the scalability among their product. And i have the feelling that Autodesk whant to do the same to have the possibility to offert a more robust corporate solution.Just in case your readers may be interest.http://soliddna.wordpress.com/2009/06/25/autocad-revisit/Have a good weekend ot allSolid DNA

  • soliddna

    Hi Deelip

    Base on the few comments and the small overview i made of the prodcut, it will take Technology preview 3 or 4… to get the whole of this project.

    My personal take on this is Autodesk is in a process to unified (fusion) all their products on a common core. Is about time, remember when they had many versions of DWG, mechanical desktop, inventor etc….

    Major key message from siemens was the scalability among their product. And i have the feelling that Autodesk whant to do the same to have the possibility to offert a more robust corporate solution.

    Just in case your readers may be interest.

    http://soliddna.wordpress.com/2009/06/25/autocad-revisit/

    Have a good weekend ot all
    Solid DNA

  • Scott Sweeney

    Thank you for your unbiased look at Fusion. I look forward to future discussions. MCAD is still in its infancy. PLM, and the management of data is important, but robust, easy to use CAD will have a tremendous impact on the future of product development.

  • Scott Sweeney

    Thank you for your unbiased look at Fusion.

    I look forward to future discussions.

    MCAD is still in its infancy. PLM, and the management of data is important, but robust, easy to use CAD will have a tremendous impact on the future of product development.

  • Deelip Menezes

    Scott Sheppard,I get that. Just that, for the noise that Autodesk made, not many of us expected to see the "fusion" missing in Fusion. At a time when everybody is quite skeptical about your claims, this does not appear to be a wise thing to do either.For a technology as big as Fusion, I am not sure whether releasing it in installments is a wise marketing approach. But then, Autodesk has the 800 pound marketing gorilla, right? Not me. 😉

  • Deelip Menezes

    Scott Sheppard,

    I get that. Just that, for the noise that Autodesk made, not many of us expected to see the "fusion" missing in Fusion. At a time when everybody is quite skeptical about your claims, this does not appear to be a wise thing to do either.

    For a technology as big as Fusion, I am not sure whether releasing it in installments is a wise marketing approach. But then, Autodesk has the 800 pound marketing gorilla, right? Not me. 😉

  • R. Paul Waddington

    'Gorilla marketing' and it is wise to remember Leopards do not change their spots. For those of us old enough to remember the release of Inventor the way Fusion is being – will be – brought to market will be of no surprise and be just as messy!

  • R. Paul Waddington

    'Gorilla marketing' and it is wise to remember Leopards do not change their spots. For those of us old enough to remember the release of Inventor the way Fusion is being – will be – brought to market will be of no surprise and be just as messy!

  • Al Dean

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  • Al Dean

    let's not forget people – its Guerilla Marketing. Not Gorilla Marketing.

    THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TvsMDXWUvg

    is gorilla marketing

    Al