The Dassault Systemes Cloud Revolution Has Begun

OK, it has been confirmed. SolidWorks will not be available as a desktop application after some period of time. Earlier SolidWorks CEO Jeff Ray gave me a twisted reply when I asked him whether all his customers will eventually have to move to the cloud, whether they wanted to or not. Today SolidWorks Social Media Manager, Matthew West and I had the following conversation in the comments of the final post of my series titled “The Dassault Systemes Cloud Strategy”:

Matthew: I think the main thing to bear in mind regarding what we’re doing is that when it’s rolled out, SolidWorks cloud apps will be an option for customers, not a requirement.

Deelip: You may want to cross check that with your CEO. That’s not what he told me when I specifically asked him that question. See the fourth and fifth paragraphs at http://www.deelip.com/?p=1349. Either you or I have caught the bull by the tail, and for your customer’s sake, I am hoping that it is me.

Matthew: What I meant was when it’s rolled out, it’s not an all or nothing thing. The installed version and cloud version will coexist for some period of time.

So if you are a SolidWorks user, you better start loving the cloud because Dassault Systemes has already made up your mind for you. Basically I think this is what is going to happen. You will learn to love the cloud and then you will learn to let go of that beloved desktop version of SolidWorks that you will have been clinging on to. Your design data and intellectual property will be stored on Dassault Systemes servers whether you like it or not. And you will learn to deal with it. Whether or not you will get to download a local copy for backup still remains an unanswered question at this point in time. I have given up asking. You will need to have a damn good internet connection wherever and whenever you feel like working. So you better start keeping an eye on the latest internet technologies. If you have been using a pirated version of SolidWorks, you will need to start to think of ways to pay for a SolidWorks service contract. If you are not on subscription and have been taking years to upgrade to new versions of SolidWorks or have been waiting for a few service packs to be released before you upgrade, you will need to let go of that “bad” habit. And yes, I believe the same will hold true for CATIA users as well.

On the positive side (not that I am implying that all the above is negative) you will also be part of a revolution that will change the CAD industry permanently. And the only way that revolution will succeed is if you give it your full cooperation using your understanding, patience and money. That’s the chicken and egg situation that Dassault Systems, SolidWorks and you will have to sit together and figure out. Make no mistake, the success or failure of this revolution largely depends on you. I wish you all the very best.

And by the way, I will be joining the revolution as well. I make SolidWorks add-ins, remember?

  • I think you're reading a bit much into what I said, and I wouldn't consider anything *I* say in a blog comment to be an official statement about the future of the company. I said “The installed version and cloud version will coexist for some period of time.” That's not a deviation from anything that's already been said. That “some period time” could be years, or it could be indefinite. I'm not the one making those decisions, and I think you might want to wait for something a bit more official from Jeff before saying that anything has been confirmed.

  • I'm probably the odd out on this from a user perspective, but I don't think this is all that disruptive. For me, I've never had any other cloud based app be disruptive. For the industry, cad companies will adapt. It's growth. It's just easy to freak out about everything crashing to a halt once I don't have CPU box heating my cubicle. I'm all for it.

  • I am reading exactly what you said Matt. You are right, Jeff Ray said something similar at SolidWorks World. But he mixed up a lot of things when answering that question.

    I am all for the cloud. Like I said that or something like it is the future. No doubt whatsoever. If I am questioning anything, it is the logic behind the lack of information that your customers, resellers and partners are so desperately looking for.

  • Charles Culp

    If they coexist for a time, then consumers get a choice. If no one chooses CloudWorks, then it will fail and we will still use DesktopWorks.

    I understand the cynicism and eyerolls from many users, but I don't understand the paranoia. They will be giving us new options, and then the market will decide.

  • Just read back through the posts, a small edit to this one (all in good fun, mind you. but really…) from a user perspective.

    “So if you are a SolidWorks user, <del>you better start loving the cloud because Dassault Systemes has already made up your mind for you. Basically this is what is going to happen. You will learn to love the cloud and then you will learn to let go of that beloved desktop version of SolidWorks that you will have been clinging on to. Your design data and intellectual property will be stored on Dassault Systemes servers whether you like it or not. And you will learn to deal with it. Whether or not you will get to download a local copy for backup still remains an unanswered question at this point in time. I have given up asking. You will need to have a damn good internet connection wherever and whenever you feel like working. So you better start keeping an eye on the latest internet technologies. If you have been using a pirated version of SolidWorks, you will need to start to think of ways to pay for a SolidWorks service contract. If you are not on subscription and have been taking years to upgrade to new versions of SolidWorks or have been waiting for a few service packs to be released before you upgrade, you will need to let go of that β€œbad” habit. And yes, I believe the same will hold true for CATIA users as well.”</del>

    [don't be afraid of a CAD company making changes to software. You're engineers and designers, you adapt to change and deal with it every day. If SolidWorks has a change coming up in their software, and it works, you'll use it, if it doesn't you'll let them know by using something else. This affects our business as designers and developers. SolidWorks should know this. We have expenses above and beyond software upgrades and the hardware to run it. If any CAD company keeps this in mind, and provides tools to reduce expenses like that, they will gain users.

    So, if you're a SolidWorks user, don't freak out, just in case a new web-based version gets announced. There might be questions about IP, privacy, speed and accessibility NOW, but if it's not usable and those concerns are not addressed, there is no product.

    If you're thinking about using SolidWorks, they have interesting ideas about how we will design in the future. It's different from using a drafting board, and different from punching in a command line… but you know that already, because you already went though that.

    In the end, it's not so much a revolution, except in the fact that we will keep designing and we will keep engineering despite what cloud we are on, what building we are in or whatever program allows us to create our ideas.]

  • I believe cloud is the next inevitable factor in our lives. That said, my largest concerns are convenience and performance.
    I am bending daily to new ways of thinking of things, but until I see internet being as accessible as the lightbulb, power plug, and a place that I can pace and gesture (part of design process) I will never be comfortable with cloud ONLY.
    There will be hell to pay if I can't use my design platform at my convenience. Like having to pay 9.99 to get wireless at an airport for a lousy hour layover, and then again on the next plane. BS. All so I can work on my application?
    I know that intimations are being made that 'If it don't work, then tell them, and they'll be forced to fix it'. True, but ask thousands of Civil 3D 2007 users that were all but told (after purchase) they were guinea pigs for a year, most would have opted out from the start. (I'm a sucker for a good time, I didn't care πŸ™‚ )
    I'd love the convenience of CLOUD + BOX. I just hope that the bugs get worked out for EVERYONE concerned before the box is removed.

  • daveault

    I don't get this fascination with new for the sake of new. Before everyone gets excited about this, take a deep breath and look at the numerous problems. Personaly I can't afford to be a guinea pig for new. Not one company espousing this has shown any benefit that I can see. They have shown that their desired business model of choice is to keep your intellectual property hostage for their financial gain. So please I am asking once again where is the benefit. I even still have to buy software, servers, workstations and the rest but now have added layers of system failure to boot and no one I can make accountable for this newly added problems. I dare say that the EULAS you will sign for this priveledge will absolve everyone but you when the problems start. We have all seen the lists of problems and the fluffy statements of wonderfull benefits and the purported inevitability of this cloud paradigm. What I have not seen is real solutions, real costs and real answers. How is it going to benefit me. Please somebody walk me through this briar patch and show me how this will benefit anyone but the hostage takers. Boy am I glad I am not with SW.

  • Edward Gains

    Did you score some crack when you were in the states, and have been high ever since? Perhaps you caught some new illness thats eating your brain cells at a massive rate?

    You have been making a HUGE amount of assumptions about this whole cloud thing over the past week, yet you continue to write like you are in the know. Do you secretly work for dassualt now? I would like you to to show the rest of us just two simple things:

    1. Jeff Ray saying in his own words that solidworks users will HAVE TO store ALL their model on dassualt servers.

    2. Jeff Ray saying that solidworks as we know it will be gone, and only a cloud based version will exist.

    You interpretations of what people say is very poor as shown above in how you took matthew wests words and twisted them to your own liking. So until you can provide proof of those words being uttered by jeff ray himself, you are just making assumptions based on what you read and hear, and I think quite a bit of information is getting lost in translation from your ears to your brain.

    I would guess the only people who know for sure are a very small team inside solidworks, and regardless of who you are, I doubt you have been clued in by them. People wonder why bloggers can't be taken seriously, you seem to prove that over and over again.

  • sdotson

    Maybe one day in the FAR future when connectivity is universal but not anytime soon. I think you are pulling a bit of a Chicken Little here Deelip.

    I am in lots of situations where I cannot connect (military for example) to the internet. So what do I do in those cases? Not have access?

    SWX is not dumb. They will only “force” users to a cloud once the cloud is universally accepted and accessible.

  • I had a good laugh at this one. Seriously man, you should join SolidWorks marketing. You are wasting your talent doing whatever it is that you are currently doing. πŸ˜‰

  • John,

    I believe the weakest link in all of this is still going to be the human, even after all the necessary infrastructure is in place. Humans are resistant to change. Thahts just the way we are built. Sometimes, we need to be nudged and sometimes we get pushed. But eventually we move on. If our kids read this discussion, they will wonder who kind of paranoid people we were. πŸ˜‰

  • Dave,

    True, details are sketchy now. In fact, a bit too sketchy for comfort. Perrsonally, I think Dassault Systemes and SolidWorks should have waited a while longer till they were in a position to answer more questions. This is not just a new UI that you show a sneak pic and people forget about it. This changes everything.

  • Briar Patch – This has been said previously. We are at an emerging technology. Games that don't require any special hardware to be enjoyed are evolving, and now more robust engineering platforms as well. This isnl't going away. It may not be the next big stop, perhaps a waypoint to something more revolutionary. This technology is new and continues to evolve. It is difficult to describe exactly how this benefits you specifically now, but in the future it brings a new level of accessibility to a wider group of individuals, with more portable forms of computing power. Considering the widespread adoption of the paradigm, this direction is inevitable. Which leads us to :
    Too early – Is it too soon? Yes, but perhaps they thought the timing was needed to begin discussion (since the market will force them in this direction, why not be on top, and out of the gate first) Since they have not pulled the trigger on anything yet, it is too soon for me to say “too soon”

  • Edward,

    About storing data on Dassault servers, yes, that is the way the cloud works. In the SolidWorks cloud demo shown on stage at SolidWorks World 2010 they deliberately crashed SolidWorks and showed us that the last change was saved. How? Because the client application on the PC crashed, not the cloud application running on the server which was holding the data. Since the data was residing on the server in the cloud the change was intact. We were also told about another feature wherein someone edits a model on one computer and then walks to another computer and continues editing it there. It could also be another person doing a collaboration. This is possible because the data in not on either of the computers. It is on the cloud. For the cloud to work, the data needs to be where the computing happens, which is the cloud. 3D VIA Shape is not a cloud application because the computing happens on the client and the data is stored on the server. That’s why you have a time lag problem due to the upload and download that needs to happen. So maybe I am not high on crack after all.

    Regarding whether SolidWorks, as we know it, will be gone or not, if you have ever spoken to Jeff Ray or attended one of his a press conferences, you will know that it is almost impossible to get a straight answer from him. What Matthew West said was pretty much the same thing that Jeff said, but in a more concise way, which was quote worthy. Did he say that SolidWorks desktop would continue forever? No. By no stretch of imagination can you equate “some period of time” to “forever”, no matter at what rate your brain cells are deteriorating. So what is the only other alternative? You tell me.

    About the huge amount of assumptions that I have been making the last week, CATIA V6 not saving to files is not an assumption. It is a fact. 3D VIA Shape now allowing to download your data is not an assumption. It is a fact. SolidWorks PLM is not an assumption. It was announced at SolidWorks World 2010. A future version of SolidWorks not saving to files is not an assumption, it is my prediction based on what has happened to CATIA V6.

    About bloggers not being taken seriously, let me guess. You prefer reading stuff written by people telling you to go get excited about a cloud application without bothering to find out exactly what that particular implementation of the cloud may or may not involve. You should stop reading blogs, my friend. Press releases are what you need πŸ˜‰

  • Matt Lombard

    Josh,

    This is a naive reply. SolidWorks NOW ships software with a lot of bugs – too many in some areas, and people still pay for support including bug fixes. So I don't think we can trust either SW or 'the market' to make everything right. Many consumers are uninformed or don't use the software enough to really care about overall quality issues, and I don't see any reason to believe anything but user apathy will control what happens in the future.

    Your cavalier attitude to accept whatever SW throws down seems at odds with your recent post about being all fired up about SW enforcing their service pack policy. A cloud implementation will certainly mean complete enforcement, and a software leasing model that has been unpopular with users for decades.

    I don't believe like Sean Dotson that SolidWorks is trustworthy to make good decisions. Look at some of what has come from Concord since 2008. Lots of bad decisions that users have to figure out a way to live with. They have about a 50/50 track record with making good decisions, and I for one will not stick around to base the future of my business on a tool with that kind of track record.

    In any case, for good or for ill, a cloud implementation is going to mean a complete rewrite, (interface, philosophy and functionality) and will basically throw away the value of all of your experience in the software up until now. Is your accumulated experience on the SW software so inconsequential that you would choose to abandon it and essentially start on a completely new software tomorrow? Why would you not also evaluate other software which might meet your needs as well as the new incarnation?

    The rewrite could go either way, either positive or negative in terms of power, ease of use, but it initially will most certainly be more bug ridden than the current software. The abandoning of prior experience also is a negative no matter how you look at it for long-time users.

    I believe Deelip is simply playing out the consequences of what Jeff Ray has been quoted as saying. Jeff was very clear that the future is the cloud. Maybe he was overstating things.

    So, the rewrite is a risk, could be good and/or bad. The change to cloud delivery has some acknowledged advantages and disadvantages and even show stoppers.
    Where this all lands is anybody's guess. Common sense says they cannot eliminate local installs, but there are few people left who trust SolidWorks to do the right thing.

  • Sean,

    Like I mentioned to you on Twitter, there is a concept of private clouds for secure installations.

    Just picking your brain a little. How far in the future did you imagine CATIA V6 not having the ability to save to files? Are you suggesting that each and every CATIA V6 user is OK with that? At least most of them have a PLM system in place.

  • Does not make much sense to me to simply put out sketchy information and lets people come to their conclusions, rightly or wrongly. Maybe all this confusion is part of their strategy. Who knows?

  • Matt,

    To be fair, Josh made that comment in jest.

    Regarding a rewrite, maybe that is a good thing. Autodesk rewrote AutoCAD in Release 14 (I think) and it is now a much better product. On the contrary PTC has not rewritten Pro/ENIGNEER since its inception with the result that it is still running antiquated C code. I create my Pro/ENGINEER plug-ins in C. I use C++ for developing plug-ins of all other CAD systems. I am not suggesting that Pro/ENGINEER is inferior. Just giving some perspective.

  • what? I can't like one thing and not like another. I don't like your cavalier attitude toward me πŸ˜‰ really man. this is a big deal. But wait, no, it's not, for the very reasons you listed above.

    oh, by the way. It's not the enforcement I have a problem with. It's the policy. But it doesn't matter anyway, cause it won't be a big deal. circle complete. out.

  • You can speculate all you like Deelip. But the fact is that you've taken what I said and twisted to mean something that was not my intention.

  • I have sent you an email. Let's do this the “right” way.

  • stevejohnsonCAD

    Autodesk rewrote AutoCAD in Release 13, which wasn't such a good thing. Some Adeskers still flinch to this day when you mention R13, which has become a byword for a buggy, unfinished product.

    External developers could use C++ for the first time in 1996 with the ARX API for R13c4. My understanding is that the internal C to C++ rewrite process actually took 3 releases to complete (R13, R14 and 2000).

  • As with any rewrite the first few versions (especially the first) is bound to be problematic. We are humans and are bound to screw up. But my point is that as the software matures it stabilizes. As years pass by and new features are bolted onto it, the underlying framework becomes stressed to a point where problems start creeping in. The framework is asked to do things that it was not initially designed for. At that time it becomes worthwhile considering rewriting from ground up.

    A couple of years ago I rewrote all my data translation libraries. It was a long task. But I had reached a point where I found myself doing patchwork. You can do that up to a point. But then you need to sometimes start all over again with a clean slate. Needless to say, my customers were not all to happy and I spent a lot of time debugging my code till it stabilized. I forsee using this code for another 5 to 7 years at least.

  • Anonymous

    Irresponsible speculation, delivered with the self-assurance of someone who's never written a cloud application, nor had to manage the CAD planning for any kind of serious enterprise.

    Just curious here. Are you trying to get your name on SolidWorks' list of “bloggers to avoid”? It's one thing to criticize a company for something you think they've done wrong. It's something else entirely to criticize a company for something you are speculating that they may do wrong in the future.

    What kind of idiot do you think Jeff Ray is, that he'd throw away his desktop user base, on the hope that they'd all want to jump to cloud-only applications?

    You seem to be mostly clueless about the technology of cloud applications, or the business of software as a service. Have you, as a start, even read the Wikipedia articles on these subjects?

    Let me give you some examples of cloud applications that millions of people in large companies already use: Sharepoint, and Exchange Server. Oh yes, don't forget Microsoft Windows Server, which implements file system replication that looks and smells a lot like cloud storage.

    It seems like all you want to do is stir up controversy.

  • Kevin Quigley

    Anonymous your statement “cloud applications that millions of people in large companies already use” is very telling. Large companies have infrastructure and budgets to run state of the art IT. What about small companies? The very companies that the CAD vendors use to promote their wares? Whilst CAD vendors and VARS love to sell to the big companies – where they can write a cheque for 100 seats at the drop of a hat – the reality is that a substantial percentage of the CAD user base is in SMEs. SMEs who do not necessarily have access to state of the art telecoms due to location or budget or both.

    Whilst Deelip is speculative about this he is basing his comments on what is KNOWN in the public domain. At SolidWorks World 2010 – what 3 months ago – this was released into the wild. Yet 3 months later we have no new information apart from a few surveys foisted onto the SolidWorks user base asking for opinions on cost!

    The number 1 issue I have – and this is the number 1 issue for ALL users I have spoken to – is how do I use my application and data when I have no internet connection available and I am not on a private cloud. A simple question that affects most users yet one that there has been a telling silence on. If companies do not communicate then users and suppliers speculate.

  • Anonymous,

    Who says that they are going to do anything wrong? The cloud or something like it is the future. I am calling it a revolution, because I think it will be one. I am saying it will end piracy. I am saying it will end the practice of delaying upgrades. I am saying that I will be part of this revolution by developing add-ins for the cloud version of SolidWorks. Are all these things bad? Is that criticizing SolidWorks?

    Like many others you are only reading the part of the post that you want to read, because you want to find something to criticize. Reread the post with an open mind, if you happen to have one.

  • Kevin,

    The answer to your question is actually very simple. If you don't have power you cannot power up your device. Similarly, if you do not have internet you cannot work on the cloud. And that is where my unanswered question comes up. Will you be able to download your data for local storage and backup? Will you be able to work locally with that data in an offline mode? Nobody at SolidWorks is answering that one, and I cannot understand why. Here you have people all wound up on how much I am speculating, when they have absolutely no clue about the answers to basic questions like these. It's baffling.

  • sdotson

    In my cases I'm working FOR the military. When we visit their facilities we have NO access to the internet or their network. So I would not be able to use my CAD software ion that case?

    Again. I do not see it happening ANYTIME in the near future.

    I know next to nothing about CATIA and Dassault. My experience is more in the SWX and Inventor realm. But again. Until connectivity becomes universal and a commodity they will not do this to their customers.

  • sdotson

    Deelip wrote: “Nobody at SolidWorks is answering that one, and I cannot understand why.”

    It's becuase even they (SWX) do not know. They are speaking in generalities about a possible plan years in the future. They do not have it figured out yet.

    Had Ray said “We plan to move everything off the desktop and into the could by 2012” then yes you could expect solid answers.

    Right now it's much ado about nothing…

  • “CATIA V6 not saving to files is not an assumption”

    You do know that you can run Catia V6 without Enovia, right? Sure, you don't get all of the collaboration and cross-site efficiency, but you can still run it, solo, sans PDM/PLM.

    Don't confuse 3D Via Shape, a consumer focussed 3D modelling widget with Catia V6. You're making way too many assumptions and not fact checking here mate.

  • sdotson

    Matt,

    I'm not saying they always make good decisions. Both SWX and Autodesk have made bad ones in the past. However make a bad enough of a decision and you will loose market share.

    No one is holding a gun to your head to use SWX products. If they force you to do something you dislike then switch products. Enough people do this and they will discover the error of their ways. Capitalism is great in this aspect.

    I just think they are smarter than this. Forcing people to go to a “cloud” paradigm before it's ready is crazy. I cannot believe they would be this shortsighted.

  • Sean,

    I think I can see where your agitation is coming from. You think SolidWorks will force people to move to the cloud “before” it's ready. And you think I am suggesting that. My post is not about that. My post is about people not being ready, even when the cloud is ready. I believe users are the weakest link in all of this, not some technology or infrastructure component. I forsee the problem being the willingness of users to adopt the cloud, not the ability to use it effectively. I very clearly say that the success or failure of this revolution depends largely on the users adopting it. I said absolutely nothing about technologies and infrastructures falling into place. You are looking at this from a technology/infrastructure standpoint. I am looking at this from a users standpoint.

    Neither Matthew or I suggested any time frame for this to happen. I think you are looking at some fixed timeframe based on where you see things at present and are trying to squeeze all this to happen by then. Sorry boss, it does not work that way.

    Please reread my post keeping this in mind. You may start looking at things differently.

  • Yes, you are asked to connect to a 3D XML data source. That's not the point. The point is users don't save to part and assembly files anymore. And that is a fact, not an assumption.

    You are missing the point with my reference to 3D VIA Shape as well. I brought that up to show that Dassault is moving people into a file-free world, which is exactly what I said. I didn't compare 3D VIA Shape to CATIA V6, which is what you have somehow assumed.

    Yeah, one of us is definitely making assumptions.

  • sdotson

    WTF? Are you reading my replies? You have pulled a complete 180 on the issue.

    Throughout your article you are taking a tone that makes it sound like this change in eminent. This is why Al is saying you were being sensational. You are the one talking about time frames. I'm not. I'm only saying SWX won't be doing this anytime soon.

    And I really could care less. I don't even use their products.

    You're flip flopping all around this one.

    Let it die. It's a non-issue right now.

  • Matt Lombard

    Sean,
    User apathy has already allowed SW to disrespect the customer dollar to the point that SW just does what they want. They have reversed course more than once based on public outcry. I'd be willing to bet they are having second thoughts again.

    There are individuals at SW who are smarter than this, but the organization as run for the last couple of years is not interested in pleasing users. I agree it would be shortsighted, although they would argue they are taking the long view. It could be that Jeff Ray has simply overstated things, but what he has said to this point doesn't leave much room for misinterpretation.

    I agree with you completely that forcing people to the cloud would be stupid, my only disagreement is that I think SW is out of touch enough to actually do it.

    Josh,
    Geez, where is that sarcasm font when you really need it.

  • Anonymous

    What about small companies? In the case of the examples I gave, SharePoint and Exchange Server, you can install a server behind your firewall, install a bunch of servers on your VPN, or use hosted services (SaaS) on the cloud. Companies ranging from sole proprietors up through Fortune 100s are using these particular tools.

    As another example, Siemens PLM Insight, Teamcenter Express, and Teamcenter Community are all built on Sharepoint Services. They scale from single-user to single-site, to full-enterprise (e.g. 20,000 users at GM.) I'm not promoting these programs — I'm just pointing out that the “my company won't use cloud apps” argument is a red herring.

    The issue of offline application and document access is critical. But the technology to provide this capability has been available for years. You simply check out your files from the pdm, work on them offline with a local copy of your CAD program, then check them back in to the pdm when you're ready.

    I suspect the reason SolidWorks has gone quiet is that their technology preview was met with reckless speculation from people such as Deelip — a small developer of translation utilities who has zero experience developing large-scale applications, no apparent experience using CAD in a production environment, and whose motivation seems to be primarily to build his own reputation, to sell more software.

    Just to be clear, people such as you, Sean Dotson, Matt Lombard, Al Dean, to name a few, have tremendous credibility, because your motivations are above-board, you raise concerns that relate to your real-world needs, and you talk about things that you have actual experience with.

  • Anonymous

    I read the entire post. Its nearly all speculation and distortion, as was your previous 4-part series on the “Dassault Systemes Cloud Strategy”

    What is your game here? You're not a serious CAD user, nor are you a CAD manager, consultant, analyst, or journalist. You don't seem to do any serious research, and you all too often draw specious conclusions from the minimal research you actually do. Is the purpose of this blog just to build your own ego?

  • Anonymous,

    So I am assuming that according to you, me raising a question about whether it will be possible or not to download a local copy of your data from the cloud for backup or offline use is not a real world concern. If that is the case then I believe your opinion is worth as much as your email address, which happens to nowhere@man.org.

  • Before questioning my credentials I suggest that publish yours. Email me at deelip (at) sycode (dot) com if you want to take this offline. I allow anonymous comments for a different reason than what you are using it for. I'd appreciate it if you could respect that.

  • David Agnew

    It's kinda chickenshit for someone to bust your balls anonymously. But I think Anon makes a good point. I read a lot of blogs, and knowing who a blogger is working for really helps put their comments in perspective.

  • Well, I work for nobody. I have partnerships with just about every CAD vendor, even SolidWorks. Not sure what perspective that gives you or Anonymous.

  • Jim Radney

    Yes it does if you are selling stock to share holders! They want to see cutting edge right or wrong. Some will buy into anything … even bad mortgages. Did SolidWorks stock go up after making this announcement?

  • Jim Radney

    Maybe Obama and the Congress will fund a bill for the Small business to buy the needed tools to switch to the Cloud type of Computing. They could do this with the money that they are going to be saving from the new “Health Care Bill”.